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i have also a broken ankle just like yours,so far i have had 5 ops and waiting for a sixth and this within 12 months and still no light at the end of the tunnel.after each op all is well, but when i start putting pressure on after the 6 weeks the bone stops growing,and no doctor can tell me why. but one good thing have alot of screws left over each op,thinking of building a shed(when ican walk again that is)

Wed Oct 15th 2003 05:30:10 PM MST	by Matt Bohnsack
Wow. That sucks. I'm 5 months after the injury/op and am walking fairly well. My ankle is still stiff and the metal bothers me, but other than that it sounds like I've been lucky. Good luck to you.

Sat Dec 13th 2003 03:25:31 PM MST	by Ingrid
Hi Matt, my sister broke her ankle exactly the way you did and now the doctors in Europe where she lives, telling her that after a year they will have to take out all the screws and plate. it scares me because I think it healed up very well without any problems. Do you have any insight or experience with this. Do you have to have a surgery after a year? Appreciate your response and good luck!!!!

Mon Dec 15th 2003 11:30:15 AM MST	by Matt Bohnsack
I'm about 8 months after the surgery now. I still have the metal in my ankle and the doctor says it never has to come out. However, I think I would like to have the metal removed, as it still bothers me somewhat. Other than that, I'm doing great. Most times, I don't even think about the ankle.

Thu Dec 25th 2003 04:28:58 AM MST

by Shan

I broke my ankle on 5th of december and completed 3 weeks today on christmas. Cant walk yet and wont be able to for maybe another 4-5 weeks. I have to get one screw removed after 5 weeks and only then I can start puting weight on my leg. I hope it all works out and I hope the metal does not bother me once I start walking. Right now honestly I just cant wait for these 4-5 weeks to pass by so I can walk.

Sun Dec 28th 2003 11:28:11 PM MST

by Natasha

I broke my ankle November 10,2003. It was a compound fracture I have 2 plates and 16 screws.I was first in a splint for about 3 weeks after surgery. Now I'm in a hard cast this would have been for about 3 weeks. Monday Dec. 29 I will be going into a walking boot I can put presure on my leg but later it hurts. I hope I'm not rushing it but I want to drive and get back to life. My doctor said that it was my choice if I wanted to have the metal removed but why? If it wont effect me in a negative way? As far as I'm concern it will stay with me forever. After you got your boot how do you keep the swelling down???? And do you sleep without the boot or the leg harness?

Thu Sep 30th 2004 02:23:26 AM MST	by Phil
I broke mine the same way, I am only in my third week and will have my cast removed in two weeks. looks like I have a lot of physical therapy ahead of me.

Sun Nov 14th 2004 08:13:55 PM MST

by MERRILYN VAN DOELAND

I broke my ankle very similar to above, its been 4 weeks since surgery and i have 8 pins and a plate, 2 on inside and 6 and plate along the fib, however i have a long screw going through both tib and fib, so i cant put weight on leg until thats removed. Its still so painfull, 2 weeks until cast comes off they reckon. Has anyone got sinilar story to share..would love to know what im in for later on down the track.

Fri Nov 19th 2004 09:22:38 AM MST	by James
i broke my ankle around a mnth ago, plyin fr my local football team. i hd fractured my ankle and three places and hd gt a spiral fracture, i hv hd 5 pins inserted in my ankle which i cn feel! it is now a month on and gt my cast off two days ago. i am findin it vry hrd to wlk and i find it hurts wen i put pressure on it. i cannot start sport til nxt may june any else lik me let me knw

Fri Nov 19th 2004 09:22:48 AM MST	by James
i broke my ankle around a mnth ago, plyin fr my local football team. i hd fractured my ankle and three places and hd gt a spiral fracture, i hv hd 5 pins inserted in my ankle which i cn feel! it is now a month on and gt my cast off two days ago. i am findin it vry hrd to wlk and i find it hurts wen i put pressure on it. i cannot start sport til nxt may june any else lik me let me knw

Tue Dec 14th 2004 01:43:19 PM MST	by Byron Benning
I broke my ankle and have 10 screws and 2 plates put in one big srew in the ankle tell me should i bare weight after the screw is removed or can i walk on it know i got two different opions from two DR

Fri Jan 28th 2005 01:38:28 PM MST

by Shannon

Well its nice to see that there our others out there. I broke mine in Mexico, while renting a quad. look before you go over a 4' sanddune it might have a 12' drop on the back side. I have 7 srews 1 plate, just got the exturnal fixator(looks like a T.V. rabbit ears screwed in to my leg) off. But ankle still real stiff after 4mo. Hope to get full movement back. PS I traveling out of country buy travel insurance. Cost me $55.00 total for all ancle work as of today $24,000.00. Great price.

Sun Feb 6th 2005 01:40:56 PM MST

by Anna

I broke my ankle about five years ago and have a plate and a bunch of screws. The doctors I have talked to about it are pretty noncommittal about whether or not I should get that stuff out. Until recently, I have had no problems with it. For about the last week where the plate is, it has been very swollen. Kind of like someone took an egg and cut down the middle from top to bottom and placed one side of it on my ankle. It doesn't hurt any more than it always has, but it seems strange that it has swollen so much. Have any of you experienced anything like this? Most of what I have read here have been fairly recent breaks, but I thought it couldn't hurt to ask.

Mon Apr 11th 2005 08:36:31 PM MST

by Garrett

I broke my ankle (plafon fracture) after bailing off a motorcycle that was about 15 feet in the air. Actually I broke my left ankle and my right knee. Anyway's I have been out of my external fixature know for about 8 weeks and have been fighting a staph infection from a pin tract. I only have one screw in my tibia. I just started to have bone growth 4 months after the accident. Sure wish I could get this to heal quicker. I have lost a job and a car over this.

Wed Apr 13th 2005 10:41:50 AM MST

by eddie

My ankle got broken after a forty-foot house footing colasped on me. I was buried alive for a 1hr 1/2 in a 9ft ditch. Alone with fractured ribs,fractured pelvis,fractured spinal cord,and lumbar fractured it has been 10 month sense I had surgery done on my ankle it still hurts alot I can't stand on it for only a short period at atime but I thank God for blessing me to be able to walk because it could've been alot worser. May God bless you all. by Eddie

Wed Apr 27th 2005 08:47:23 PM MST

by Laurel

Hey everyone. I'm glad to find other stories to at least get an idea of what to expect. My break just happened on April 2nd. I was snowmobiling, hit a rock under the snow and ended up under a tree with my ankle broken in 3 places(trimalleolar fracture). The fun part was having to drive my machine back to civilization with my ankle flopping all over the place (thought I was going to faint a couple of times). Anyway, like the rest of you I have plates, pins and screws, and I go back to the hospital on May 12th to have x-rays and maybe have the large screw taken out. The doctor was kinda vague - I really have no idea when I will be allowed to walk on it -- doctors really give you very little information on what to expect. From your stories it looks like it may be awhile. Good luck to everyone!

Sun Jun 12th 2005 05:32:35 AM MST

by rhonda

I broke my ankle in november2004 i got a plate and 7 screws in it, i wasnt allowed to weight bear until the long screw came out on jan2005, i am still having physio,my wound took 2 months to heal, when it did heal my ankle felt ok but the swelling never went down. 2 weeks ago my wound started going red and green pus came out of it, i went back to see my consultant and he has told me there is an infection on the bone under the plate, so i have to go in at the end of june to get all the metal work removed and my bone scraped of the infection. I am continually off work and my life has not been the same since this happened, i work in the hospital too and believe it or not thats were i fell, leaving work to go to the shop. has anyone else had an infection similar to what i have? i'd really appreciate some information about how they got on after the removal of metalwork. God bless you all!

Tue Jun 21st 2005 02:12:52 PM MST	by Cheryl
My son suffered a severely broken ankle after being hit by a car while on his motorcycle last October. Still has metal in. He can walk pretty well but cannot run as still has lot of pain. Anyone know if the metal that's in there could be causing this pain and not allowing him the movement to run? Have any of you been able to regain the movement to run again? Any info would be appreciated.

Wed Jun 22nd 2005 04:12:14 PM MST

by rhonda

hi cheryl, sorry to here about your son,im rhonda i posted a comment above you. i read on the internet that the metal plate can cause stiffness, i have a plate in my ankle,i cannot run or walk very fast since i got it in but you can request for the metal to come out after 18mths if is is causing pain etc. after 18mths the bone will have healed properly, thats what my consultant told me. i am getting my 6 screws and plate out on tuesday as it is causing an infection in my bone. i hope this info will help u and your son a bit.

Thu Jun 23rd 2005 04:48:17 AM MST

by sylvia

I suffered a trimalleolar left ankle break August 1,2000. This injury required open reduction surgery. As a result, I have a plate,rod and,thirteen screws.Five years later, I still have pain and difficulty applying pressure on the left ankle. When the weather changes ie..rain or cold, I really feel stiffness and pain. I've tried pain medications only to learn all it does is make me sleep, so I do not take prescribed pain meds. I've also tried therapy to no avail. I am truly considering the removal of all this metal in my ankle. When I go to the ER, doctors are woed at the amount of metal in there. I've had one doctor state "with all that metal, no wonder you're in pain!" This physician strongly suggested the metal be removed. My orthopedic surgeon described my break as a "career ending" break. Yes, I am greatful I can walk but, even this is limited. I definately can not jog as I did prior to this break. I can not even walk the distances I used to without experiencing some degree of pain, discomfort and, swelling. Heels, I can no longer wear. This injury has drastically changed my life and I would love to hear from others experiencing the same.

Thu Jun 23rd 2005 04:48:46 AM MST

by sylvia

Tue Jul 19th 2005 03:29:39 AM MST

by rhonda

got my plate ankle plate and six screws out on 28th june 2005, still recovering at home, my wound wont heal, there was an infection but antibiotics have cleared it up. the hospital has swabbed me for MRSA, fingers crossed it comes back clear. my wound is turning into a very deep hole in the middle of the wound, i was wondering if anyone else has had any problems similar to this with their wound?? how long did it take to heal?? did the hole heal over? or is there still a hole? please post your reply so i can get a little more information about this. thanks

Mon Jul 25th 2005 10:09:46 PM MST	by jesse
i broke my ankle last week biking i still have a cast on and have one screw in it. i still have pain in it and it's still swollen like crazy.hopefully will be puttin pressue on it in a month or so.

Thu Jul 28th 2005 12:26:04 PM MST

by Eric Fingal

I fractured both bones in my ankle on December 9,1968 at age 16 and had a pin installed in my tibia. I healed up quickly (I'd hate to think what it would take now at this age!)and went on to have a very active young adulthood, even running as much as 50 miles a week at one point. I still run (only about 10 miles a week now) but sometimes have aching pains in that ankle -more now at age 52 than when I was younger. I wonder how big a hassle it would be to have the pin removed, and if I had it removed, how much my quality of life would improve. Does anyone have any experience with this?

Mon Aug 1st 2005 04:48:37 AM MST

by rhonda

for ERIC FINGAL : I recently got a plate and six screws removed from my ankle because of an infection, 2 months on and the wound is still trying to heal, now that my metal work has been removed i feel my leg more flexible to move and i dont have much of a limp,the swelling is not as bad either. maybe you should enquire about getting the pin removed, you could see an improvement like i did. after all the metal is a foreign body and your body might reject it someday, like mine did, u might end up with a nasty infection too. i'd reccomend you go to your doctor and ask about it,and see what they say, if its causing you pain they probably will take it out,thats what my own consultant told me, otherwise if there are no problems with the meatal they will leave it in for life. hope this helps you eric.

Mon Aug 1st 2005 12:22:51 PM MST

by Eric Fingal

Thank you Rhonda for your reply. Your infection is a result of the metal in your ankle, not the surgery? I saw your original post above and thought that you had gotten the infection from the operation, in which case, if there was that risk from the surgery, I would just leave it alone(It's been in there for 37 years!). I had never heard there was a risk of infection leaving the pin in so your post is informative. I will consider talking to an orthapedist about it. Eric

Mon Aug 1st 2005 09:48:16 PM MST

by Therease

On July 3rd I fell down five stairs which resulted in a compound fracture. Both the tibia and fibula were broken. Since I was out of town and went to the nearby ER. The doctor who saw me immediately said the injury would require surgery as soon as possible. I opted to return home to see an orthopedic surgeon. The ER doc put my ankle in a splint cast and prescribe antibiotics and pain medication. I saw the ortho suregeon two days later, and was scheduled for surgery two days after this visit. The surgeon was very clear about the diffficulty of realigning the bones, loss of motion, and arthritis due to the severity of the injury. He was able to align the ankle with a plate with eight screws, and two screws, each on both sides of the ankle. It has ben 4 weeks now and I fianally in a lightweight fiberglass cast. I cannot bear any weight on the foot, and am beginning to move my toes abit. I am wondering if others have had an acident such as this, and what about the recovery time. Also, have you had to have PT after the cst came off? Thanks.

Thu Aug 18th 2005 07:23:07 PM MST

by Jim

Therease, i was playing keep-away with my daughter when i broke my ankle in three places, 8 screws and one plate. that happened on july 24th, and currently, august 18th, i'm wearing a ankle brace. no cast of any kind, on the sixth week after surgery, my DR. told me i could start applying light pressure and begin to walk on it with out my crutches as much as i could. right now i'm not wearing it for i am sitting still at the computer. aside from the swelling and STILL feeling like i've twisted the hell out of it again, light pressure be damned, i can stand on it, and do slow raises onto my tiptoes(sp). i am supposed to have PT, but that's surely not going to happen. i've exhausted my last week of savings and must go back to work regardless of how i feel. don't know if you were able to cover any of your bill with insurance, but i just got my bill and itemized statement and at 11,000bux, I HAVE TO GO BACK TO WORK... anyways, my email address is pumpmechanic@juno.com if anyone wants to relate their itemized statements to mine. i'd sure like the hospital to knock some of it away!

Fri Aug 19th 2005 12:46:58 PM MST

by Dirk

Hello All. I find this to be a very informative website (even though it was more than 20 pages deep in my google search). I had the exact same break and surgery about ten years ago. After some PT and a few years of mild pain (time makes one forget) I moved on and didn't notice it much other than than the reduced range of motion and an occasional ache after running too far or bad weather. Recently, I have (ff the hardware improves range inally!) noticed that the reduced range of motion affects my gait and probably explains why I have chronic shin splints and hip pain. I have heard that removal hardware improves the range of motion, but it has been so many years that I am not too optimistic about this possibility. Anyway, just wanted to see if anyone has any thoughts and to let everyone know that our bodies are pretty amazing. Given time to heal and the occasional ibuprofin, we can return to most activities.

Sat Aug 20th 2005 06:48:18 PM MST

by Joanna

I slipped on the ice in January and had a trimalleolar fracture dislocation of my right ankle. The orthopedic surgeon put in a plate with several screws on the fibula and two screws were put in on the other side. I was lucky, Jim, to have Medicare and some supplementary insurance. I dedicated myself to doing all I could for the ankle.....was very concientious about keeping it elevated, icing as instructed, never putting any weight on until six weeks passed. I was rewarded with a good recovery in six weeks and then was able to begin physical therapy, which was immensely helpful. Now, I can run, but not very fast, jump waves with my grandchildren, contradance and have taken an 8 mile hike up and down a mountain. I do have some swelling and some soreness, but not so much that I need to take any medication. I think it's a miracle I can do these activities at all. I am 67, and am wondering if I should have the plate and screws taken out, and if so, when. I have been told that having holes in my bone weakens it, and also, that the metal will be a constant irritation (the ankle is always swollen some). I wonder what this will mean as I grow older. When doing a squat, I cannot bend that leg nearly as far as the other. However, considering the mess the ankle was when I injured it, I think the healing has been fantastic and so am wondering if it's worth the risk of infection to have a second operation. I'd appreciate hearing about any more experiences relative to having screws and plates taken out.

Thu Aug 25th 2005 01:27:50 AM MST	by kitty
it's 18 months since i broke my ankle in 2 places (bimalleolar #). the surgeon wants to take the pins and plate out. has anyone had this done and can tell me what the down time is after surgery?

Thu Aug 25th 2005 03:52:48 AM MST

by rhonda

KITTY, i got a plate and screws removed from my ankle on 28th june 2005, it is now 24th august 2005 and im still at home recovering. I have better movement in my leg since the metal was removed,but my wound wont heal, there is a deep hole in the middle of the wound, i recently took a second infection in the wound too. my consultant has said that it takes six months for the holes in the bone were the screws had been to close over and heal, and that i need to be careful as the bone is alot weaker until it fully heals. my physio has seen a great improvement in my walking since the metal came out, as before this i had a severe limp. i hope everything goes well for you kitty, i would recomend to anyone that it is beneficial to get the metal removed as the swelling is much less, theres no pain or stiffness and theres better movement too. if i get this wound healed hopefully i'll be back to full health and fitness again.

Sun Aug 28th 2005 01:53:42 PM MST

by Tracey

I fell down the stairs and broke my tibia and fibula (thanks, Thearese, it's nice to know that I'm not the only one. It happened on July 3rd and I had a plate and screws put in on the 4th. I spent 2 weeks in a splint, then 4 weeks in a plaster cast. When they set my foot after the surgery, they had my toes pointed down. I'm in my second week of PT and I still can't put my left foot flat on the ground. I'm allowed to put up to 100 pounds on the ankle but can only make about 30 pounds. After a couple of frustrating weeks, I finally managed to take my first (crutch-assisted) steps yesterday. I know it sounds strange but I feel like I forgot to walk. It's taken a lot of concentration just to keep my left foot on the ground and not jerk it up and hop. Did anyone else encounter that mental block? Plus, it really hurts to walk, eh? Hurts almost as much as the physio bill.

Mon Sep 12th 2005 04:18:15 PM MST

by Nancy

Glad I found this site.....at least it makes me think I am not a whiney person. I broke my fibula on July 28th, with surgery and a steel plate with 5 screws the same day. It was bandaged for 5 days then, with no cast, I started PT. I do have full range of motion back and just started putting weight on it as of Sept 9th. Healing has been fine with a lot of discoloration but foot looks much better now that I can put weight on it. Funny thing is the ankle does not hurt but across the instep of the foot is where most of my pain is. I DESPISE the ortho boot and would rather just put on 10 inch work boot!! No arch support and the darned rocking motion instead of flexing mid foot. It is taking much restraint to continue with this boot. For one thing, a large was the only size that fit when I was swollen from surgery but now it is too big. I start back work next monday. Hope not to develop problems with the metal - my mother has a plate in for over 20 years in the same area and has had no problems.........

Mon Sep 12th 2005 07:34:01 PM MST

by Linda

I broke my right ankle (trimalleolar fracture) and fibula with dislocation on 5/27. Had open reduction surgery on 5/29. 2 plates, 11 screws later, I have been gradually allowed to place weight on my injured ankle - 25%, 50%, 75% now 100% as of Labor Day. I have not yet started outpatient physical therapy. I have been wearing a cam boot since 2 weeks post op. Must keep leg elevated most of the day - can't drive for at least 5 more weeks. Just started navigating the stairs - one at a time with a cane and the railing. I have been advised that open reduction surgery can lead to arthritis - has anyone else been told this? I have not been told that the hardware needs to be removed - have a card to show the security folks at the airport when I travel. Walking is an issue - can't walk for more than 50 yards without walker/cane assistance. Can't walk without the cam boot. Haven't worn a full pair of shoes since my fall.

Mon Sep 12th 2005 07:36:30 PM MST

by Linda

Tue Sep 13th 2005 10:10:15 PM MST

by Pam

Hi I had my surgery on August 18th I had 1 plate and 6 screws put into my ankle I've been using the huge boot to walk around in (I mean hobble on) I never realized the problems that could occur from this surgery My doc hasn't mentioned anything I go back to him on Monday for 3 week xrays hopefully all is well and I can continue to wear the boot that I can remove for baths and bed. My foot is still swollen and the top of my foot has strange wrinkles from where the skin was much more swollen I apply neosporin to the incision every day hoping it will eliminate any chance of infection. Hope you all recover with sucess I will be back to check on everyone.

Fri Sep 16th 2005 10:09:55 AM MST

by Katie

I broke my right ankle (trimalleolar fracture) on 10th November 2004 - I had a plate and 7 screws and a pin in the other side. I'm pretty much back to normal now and able to do most of the activities I did previously but some of the screw heads poke up through the skin giving a funny appearance and sometimes pain. The specialist has booked me in to have the metalwork removed (only the plate and screws) on 27th October. He said I will be able to return to normal straight away, but the wound will be a bit sore. I have been a bit put off by some of the horror stories about 'holes' in the wound and long healing periods on this web site. Is this common? I was led to believe I would be back to normal pretty quickly after the metalwork was removed?

Fri Sep 16th 2005 08:07:14 PM MST

by jon in florida

Hey all - I broke my right ankle 2 1/2 years ago - bimalleolar - plates, screws, etc. Slow to heal (I was 43), lots of pain and swelling on TOP of my foot for many months. Anyway, one of my nerves was severed during surgery (not unusual I've been told) but I've got this Guitar string" runnig down the outside of my right leg, stats mid way between knee and ankle, runs down and over the screws and ends at second to last toe, which has remained umb. Still swells nd reduced range of motion, odd sensation @ bottom of heel. Should I have the hardware removed ? I'm always concsious (sp?) of the ankle, I can run, but gait has changed. Second opinion had no answers (more physical therapy, shoulder shrus). I'd gladly take srgery again to et'er done. Whadya think?

Sun Sep 18th 2005 04:43:18 PM MST

by Tracey

I posted in August about how I was staggering around on crutches and felt like I forgot to walk. Thought I'd update my progress. I moved onto full weight-bearing and was told to get down to 1 crutch sometime in the next couple of weeks. I managed to walk with 1 crutch on thursday and by friday I could walk for 1/2 hour periods without any crutches at all. Actually, walk is a bit of an exaggeration. It looks more like a zombie shuffle; I feel like an extra in a horror film. I'm currently flipping between 1 crutch and no crutches. I even managed to walk up the stairs without crutches last night. If you're trying to make the transition between crutches and walking, don't give up. It's hard and it's painful but once you get in that first step, no one will be able to convince you to sit down again.

Fri Sep 23rd 2005 01:39:51 PM MST

by Pam

Hello again I went to the Dr. on Monday he said I could gradually loose the crutches over the next 2 weeks but I decided to loose them now I too have the zombie strut but at least I only have 2 legs now instead of 4 people are telling me it's too soon to walk but I have way too many things to get done my foot does bother me some but I just take a couple of tylenol and it's better anybody have any stories about walking too soon?

Fri Sep 23rd 2005 09:31:26 PM MST

by Nathan

I broke my ankle about 6 weeks ago now, and had a steel plate and 5 screws put into it, on the outside of the ankle. I have to wear the air boot cast thing for 3 more weeks before I get it checked up on again. I attempted to walk a few days ago and just putting full pressure it felt like something was trying to poke through the flesh on the instep of my ankle. Anyways, just wondering if anyone knows how long it usually takes before you can get back to full speed running along with lateral movement, because I don't think the doctors tell the truth about that stuff.

Fri Sep 23rd 2005 09:44:58 PM MST

by erin

hi. i too had ankle surgery in the begining of june. since i had such a great ortho, i'm not real sure what exactly was broken (i know the tib and fib were but i think that other little one was too), and i'm not sure of the name of the surgery, but i know there was a plate and screws put in one side and 2 screws in the other side. it's now the end of sept. and i still have swelling and lumps at both incision sites. anyone know if this is normal, or should i see a different doctor. my current doc said that "everything was fine" at my last appt last month and that there was no need for me to return to him. any help would be appreciated. eapgirl1978@aol.com

Sat Sep 24th 2005 12:56:48 PM MST

by pat

I had the ankle surgery and pins and plate in July. I've had many of the similar stories here--told to move to crutches, to one crutch, to walking. Have done my best. I still limp and felt like I, too, was learning to walk all over. The doctor doesn't seem to think physical therapy is necessary, but I wonder if it would help? It's certainly nice, in a way, to hear all these stories varifying mine--the stiffness, the lack of flexibility. Sigh...I wish I could go back and _not_ fall down those stairs!

Thu Sep 29th 2005 03:23:45 PM MST

by Pam

Nathan;;;; I just read your note and I can't believe you have to wear the boot for another 3 weeks.I wore the boot for 4 weeks then switched to an ankle brace for 5 days after that I have been walking on my own yes with a slight limp but hopefully that will fade soon it does hurt at first when you try to walk on it just try walking with the crutches and slowly put weight on the bad foot my surgery was on 8-19 and I also had 1 plate and 5 screws it does take a long time but if I were you I would try walking on it you will feel better just getting rid of the crutches good luck to ya!!

Fri Oct 7th 2005 08:07:50 AM MST

by Phil

Hey Folks. Fell 40 feet in March 2005. Broke left ankle and knee. Shattered right ankle and broke leg. I just started stubbling around w/o crutches in aug. Constantly bitching about ankle pain. ROM in right ankle sucks. Was at Doctor on the Oct. 6 he started talking about fusion of ankle or maybe symes amputation of foot. Yeah right!! I am married with 5 children no lost job and left to pray. I am very encouraged by this page and hope to continue to share with all of you. Have knee reconstruct on Monday Oct. 10th. Talk to you all afterwards. I'll Be praying for all of you, as I hope you could remember me in your prayers.LUCKY TO BE ALIVE!!!

Fri Oct 7th 2005 10:01:44 PM MST	by Pam
Hey Phil What a terrible thing to have happen my thoughts and prayers are with you and your family I don't know if this will help or not but I am going to go for massage therapy soon this guy says he can have my rom back in two weeks. It may be worth a try good luck to you(:

Sun Oct 9th 2005 11:29:37 AM MST	by Tracey
Pam, keep us posted and let us know if the massage therapy does work miracles. I had massage therapy and they just improved the circulation.

Mon Oct 17th 2005 09:29:16 PM MST	by Pam
Tracey... I'm not quite sure yet if the massage therapy is working it does feel like he worked out some of the kinks but it still is stiff and achy although I did manage to go to the gym tonight and used the bike and the ellipitacal

Sat Oct 22nd 2005 11:02:34 PM MST

by Nathan

I've been off crutches for just over a week now, and the doctor told me to get a balancing board. Apparently it strengthens and stabilizes all of the ankle muscles, ligaments, and tendons. He recommended this over any type of physiotherapy. I am still limping, but not quite as bad as I was a week ago. In 5 weeks I need to have 2 of 5 screws removed, and I was wondeirng if my limp will continue until they do get removed?

Mon Oct 24th 2005 09:37:36 AM MST

by Pam

Hey I really do think the massage therapy works although he told me that not all massage therapy is the same you have to have someone who also works with the resistance on your ankle where he has you push against his hand I am walking almost normal now except when I wore my clogs with an elevated heel still need to wear the sneakers ot a flat comfortable shoe it has been 10 weeks and it has been a long healing process but I'm alot better than I thought I would be!!!!

Wed Oct 26th 2005 08:23:11 PM MST

by Tracy Ruth

My dad broke his ankle last night. He fell off a later and dislocated his right ankle, fractured the fibula and also the bottom of the tibia. They put a plate along the fibula and about 5 screws. There is also a pin in the tibia and a big screw through the ankle joint. He has a soft cast on for now so they swelling and such can ajust. Any tips for a better recovery would be most helpful. I will keep you all posted.

Thu Oct 27th 2005 09:44:58 PM MST

by anonymous

I broke my ankle in 2003 just like yours. I had a screw through my ankle and a plate in the same spot. The screw was removed several weeks after the initial op. As of today i still have the plate on my bone. Until recently when i have noticed a screw poking out or the plate is bent. i am considering going back to my doctor and having the plate removed. I would advise removing the plate when the screw it removed.

Sun Nov 6th 2005 01:06:04 PM MST

by Alec

This website is really helpful, but kinda scary. I broke the fibula and sprained my ankle on Oct. 14th 2005, and had a plate in screws put in. I'm in a hard cast now, but will hopefully get it off in December. By the sounds of it the risk of infection and long term effects are pretty common. I'm 21 so I hope I'm young enough to make a full recovery. My doc said I'm getting the hardware out in 6 months, but according to everyone elses posts it seems like it should take longer to heal than that, but I'm not the doctor. Thanks for all the info.

Mon Nov 14th 2005 01:45:02 PM MST

by Tracey

Alec, one of those dull journals of medicine recently published that it takes about 9 months for a broken ankle to fully heal (they called it pregnancy in an ankle). Most of the healing (about 90%) is done in the first 3 months, the rest is a slow process. I can now walk about 1/2 a kilometer without much pain (but lots of exhaustion). I broke it in july and finally got the okay to go back to my desk job. My problem is that I'm not rolling through when I walk on my bad leg. I just can't convince that foot that it needs to do more than land flat and stay flat. Did anyone else have roll-through problems? How'd you get through it?

Tue Nov 15th 2005 06:48:42 AM MST

by Joe

Hi everyone! I broke my right ankle playing football on a muddy field with skateboard shoes on. Not the smartest move, and I definitely don't recommend it, haha. I broke it on the 4th of October, went through the surgery. Had 8 screws, two smooth pins, and a plate put in. I've been on edge since day one since I have to rely on people to serve me and I can't work. It's very nerve-wrecking. Anyway, I broke both my tibia and fibula. The tibia has a small fracture in it, hence the pins as opposed to the full screw. I've read through this entire page in agony at some of the stories and thoughts of not being able to fully walk for more than I had anticipated. It's truly a shame for a lot of you considering you have families and such. Alec, it's surprising to hear your Dr. tell you when you'll be having the hardware taken out. Perhaps your case is different and the fracture wasn't that bad. Tracey, I'm glad to hear you're making progress as I, among everyone else here, know the pain both mentally and physically. Being young myself, I'm doing what I can to not go insane and heal as quickly as possible. Though the initial break I could still fully function my toes and about 70% of my ankle had movement. Even after about a month and two weeks or so in my fiberglass cast I feel no pain whatsoever, and can move my ankle from side to side and up and down (very minimally obviously). As anyone here I am just scared of what I haven't been told. Any advice guys? Much love to you all.

Wed Nov 16th 2005 06:59:40 PM MST

by Brit

On my 36th birthday (09/28/05), I had my first ever break of any kind (after 22 years of skateboarding, snowboarding, and mountain biking) while coming off a frontside wallride at the Cove skatepark in Santa Monica, CA. Dangit! Bimalleolar fracture of the right ankle (no driving!). Surgery on 10/01/05. Fibula plate with 7 screws; the doc opted to not screw the Tibia facture into the Tibia as it was too small and might shatter and that Mother Nature would do the work. :) Ate pills for exactly one week. I was out of work for two weeks and lucky that I do computer network support and can do it from home. Splint came off on 10/13/05, my leg looked like it had entered a hot dog eating contest and gotten beat up after winning. Then came the black fiberglass cast (Halloween and black matches everything). Took "the leg" to a manicure/pedicure shop and grossed out the ladies with my foot that I insisited on having the nails painted black. I did the other foot too. If you're gonna rock your toenails for that long, why not do them up? That was fun. Crutches, crawling, hopping are my world. Carrying a cup of coffee on crutches is a new sport for me. I did manage do do one-legged vaccuuming and bowling! I bathe by drawing a bath and keeping the right leg on the bathtub edge. Pain was totally gone by 10/28/05. The swelling reduced gradually and noticably during the time the cast has been on. It was tight at first but now is loose enough to move my foot around a bit in all directions. I still don't put any pressure on it, though, and try to keep it straight and neutral during desk time and while sleeping. Tomorrow (11/16/05) the cast comes off and the doc will determine the next step. I have spoken to two different mid-30's x-games type people who have had the same surgery and had their hardware removed. They say that if I were done with fun, I could leave it in, but if I want to ride again that it is better to take it out for range of mobility and that if I break it again, it will be cleaner break (ugh that's nasty). At least it was a solid opinion, my doc is as wishy-washy as the others I read about here in reference to hardware removal. My world consists of my desk and about a 20' radius from it. Fun! I can't wait to cut a rug with the "zombie shuffle" or its street variant, the "zombie strut" (thanks to previous posters for those gems). I am most freaked out about re-injuring it and losing basic stuff like walking and running for good. I am planning on wearing serious ankle support for all sports activities after this to minimize the risk. The balance board suggestion for PT sounds great, thanks for that! Please let me know if anybody has suggestions regarding hardware in/out with respect to sports. Hang in there everybody!

Sun Nov 20th 2005 01:50:50 PM MST	by Nathan
I've been out of my cast for about 5 and a half weeks now, and things are slowly getting back to normal. I get 2 screws out this coming Thursday, and supposedly after that I'll be on the final road to recovery. The doctor told me that in order to play sports, I'd need 2 of the screws removed, but if I was older or inactive, he would have recommended keeping them in.

Thu Nov 24th 2005 05:09:22 PM MST	by Nathan
So I went for surgery today, but after my x-rays the doctor told me that I should probably just get all of the hardware taken out (plate, 5 screws). So I agreed and I'm awaiting a date for the operation. I thought I would have to wait 18 months until everything comes out? It's only been about 3 and a half months since the break.

Sat Nov 26th 2005 12:33:15 PM MST

by Mike in Cocoa Beach

I broke my lower fibula, above the ankle on July 20, 2005. I had surgery to put a steel plate and screws on the break and 2 other longer screws to keep my ankle aligned. After three months, the 2 long screws were removed. Its been almost 4 weeks since then and I still cannot bare much weight on that foot. While the long screws were in my leg I was not to put any weight on it, so now I have tremendous soreness in my foot predominantly when I try to walk. I use crutches, but want to start walking normally again. How long should it be before I can walk without the aide of anything?

Mon Nov 28th 2005 12:06:24 AM MST

by Jeff in Visalia, Ca

I was at a Halloween Party Oct 29, 2005 and just took a step forward on an outside patio and my left ankle apparently shifted and I heard a snap and went down like a sack of potatoes. Found out the next day that somebody apparently had left a bag of ice on the patio and water had drained into the area where I had fallen. I fractured my fibula bone and my ankle joint was dislocated. The pain was immense and even after receiving a morphine shot at the emergency room, it didn't do a thing. Had surgery five days later and a metal plate and five screws put in. Was given a prescription of Norco pain killers which helped a little. My ankle was so swollen from time of fracture to approximately two weeks after surgery. Now in the fourth week and wearing a walking boot and using crutches. Ankle is still sore, especially in the mornings when I first put it down to the floor. I keep it elevated as much as possible, this helps reduce the swelling. Sleeping in a recliner instead of my bed seems to be the best, though I still wake up several times at night trying to find the best position to keep it from hurting. My doctor said I should be able to go back to work on light duty after week six if swelling and pain has subsided. I was mad at first when first injured and think an ankle fracture is probably one of worst fractures a person can have. I hate being immobilized and using crutches. After recovery, I am seriously considering volunteering at a Orthopaedic Clinic to assist patients with similar injuries. Even if it is just having someone to talk with. Being bored out of my mind and having to hobble just to get a glass of water is worst than the pain.

Mon Nov 28th 2005 09:02:12 PM MST

by Mike in Cocoa Beach

I am going to my first physical therapy session tomorrow, to have them evaluate my progress. After having two ankle aligning screws removed from my lower left tib/fib 4 weeks ago, and being unable to walk on it for four months, I think I am doing well. I can use a cane in the house and crutches out and about, wearing sneakers. Of course I want to be walking normal again yesterday. So I figured PT might help. I spend all day rehabbing my foot and leg at home, but maybe they can get me walking quicker. I'll cross my fingers....

Wed Nov 30th 2005 08:00:49 AM MST

by sherry

wow, this is very informative - but I have a question - my son (32) broke his ankle Thanksgiving day - ER splinted it and sent him home saying surgery would be needed - call them Monday. Monday they didn't have time to see him. He went to another ER with his x-rays and they re-aligned the foot saying first ER did lousy job and yes he would need surgery but would have to wait 5-7 days for swelling to go down. That's going to make it like 2 weeks after the injury - is this usual?

Wed Nov 30th 2005 09:19:57 AM MST

by Mike in Cocoa Beach

Went to PT for the first time yesterday and it seemed informative. The biggest message I got from it was work on my ankles range of motion using long rubber bands and get to the gym to use the leg machines and treadmills. I scheduled to go in for PT 1 session a week for four weeks, I can do most of it myself. I even built a balance board like they had, out of some scrap wood. My ankle got a tremendous workout from all the different stretches I learned and using the balance board. Progress on the HORIZON..... Oh, and Sherry, waiting a few weeks after the accident to do surgery will do no harm. I waited 3 weeks and I am coming along fine in the aftermath. Good Luck to all!!!

Wed Nov 30th 2005 09:48:17 PM MST

by Pam

Hey Everyone.... I am now at 3 1/2 months post op and doing fine I never did the PT but did the massage therapist with some resistance work for 2 weeks the incision is still kind of numb feeling really noticeable when I am shaving my legs but overall really doing well talked to a girl who had the same surgery in 1998 her doc told her not to remove the screws until they started to come through because they are making a hole in the bone and until the bone heals enough to push them out you are more susceptible to another break my doc just said he would like to wait a year then take them out I guess we are all told different things! Hang in there Mike it really does get better with time.

Thu Dec 1st 2005 07:18:54 AM MST	by sherry
Pam,thanks so much for your response - that relieves my mind so much - I was really concerned about the delay before surgery. I'm going to tell my son about this site - I think it will help a lot. Good luck to you.

Thu Dec 1st 2005 07:24:17 AM MST	by sherry
Mike - I'm so sorry - I read the screen wrong - thank you for the response! I see you are in Coaco Beach - My son is in Tampa. I hope everything goes well for you.

Sat Dec 3rd 2005 10:49:50 AM MST

by lulu

Hi there everyone. It really is interesting to read everyone's experience and know that we are not alone and there is a light at the end of the tunnel! I too have a broken ankle and have 8 screws. I had a set back and have an open wound and have to use a vac and have hyberbaric treatments. I am hoping to start pt soon and could just imagaine doing the zombie shuffle since I have not been able to weight bear for the last 3 months. I'm wondering if any of the women out there who have had this experience could wear heels again. This may sound vain, but I would really miss my shoes if I had to wear ortho shoes! would love to hear from the women about this.

Sun Dec 4th 2005 11:04:19 AM MST

by Mike in Cocoa Beach

I am not a woman, but can tell you from my experience of being non-weight bearing for 15 weeks that it is very important that you do leg exercises now. Not weight bearing exercises, but anything from a seated or laying position that will exercise your hip and upper leg muscles. I did not realize this while I was sitting around for all that time, but now that I am trying to walk again, it is very difficult. My entire leg lost all ability and is very WEAK. I am using the lightest weights possible on the leg machines at the gym and my leg still feels like it is too much for it and I use to be a body builder and personal trainer. Good Luck!!!

Tue Dec 6th 2005 11:32:38 AM MST	by Tracey
Hi Lulu, I'm 5 1/2 months post-op and can't get into anything but a flat. I tried a 1/2 inch heel for a job interview and switched back to my sneakers. I think it'll depend on your ankle strength so follow Mike's advice and keep exercising. If you're still in a cast, try leg lifts with the cast leg. Good luck.

Thu Dec 8th 2005 02:09:34 AM MST

by TAMARA WARREN

I was hit by a car while trying to cross the street. The driver did not see me as I was crossing and I was knocked onto the ground and the car's back tires ran over my left ankle and both tires ran over my right ankle and I sustained a dislocation and bi-medialateral something or another fracture. I have seven screws and a plate on one side and a screw and a pin on the other side of the right ankle. The left ankle only sustained an avulsion a deep wound and I think I have some tendon problems. I'm getting an MRI today. I am attending physiotherapy, but some days are better than others. One day I'm improving and others I'm not. After four months I still do not have the range of motion totally back and I still get swelling. What can I do. I was in a wheelchair, used a walker, two crutches, one crutch, and now a hobble no assistance. Not to mention I'm from New Orleans and had to evacuate with a walker and a bright pink cast on my leg. What an adventure. Thank for reading! Tamara

Mon Dec 12th 2005 01:51:11 PM MST	by Tracey
I found this website with ankle exercises that some of you may find useful. I can't manage more than 6 seconds doing the first balance exercise so I can see what I'll be doing over the holidays. In case I don't post again before the 25th, have a merry Christmas! Here's the site: http://www.mckinley.uiuc.edu/Handouts/anklesprain/anklesprain.html

Tue Dec 13th 2005 09:12:18 AM MST

by Mike in Cocoa Beach

Hey Tracey, great website with nice illustrations. Those movements are exactly what they tell you to do in physical therapy. Nice find! I am finally at the point where I am walking with a cane and can balance alone on my recovering leg. Learning to walk with a normal stride has been a challenge, but along with strength, that will come with time. My recovery is coming along just fine and I even mowed the lawn the other day with my walk-behind mower. I go to the gym 4 - 5 times a week and use the treadmill for at least 40 minutes and then work out the rest of my body and especially my leg. Persistence is the key to recovery, oh yeah, and lots of ice on the heel. Good Luck to all and Happy Holidays...

Tue Dec 13th 2005 06:12:21 PM MST

by Mike in Cocoa Beach

Hard to believe, but I did not use my cane at all today. I even tried to take a couple steps towards a run, it was a bit overzellous. I am walking at about half-normal speed, but with no assistance. What a relief! It only took 6 weeks after the aligning pins were removed to start bearing weight unassisted on my left leg. After 15 weeks of being non-weight bearing, thats pretty good, if I do say so myself. That gives hope to the rest of you. The next time I log on, it will be after I catch my first wave in over 5 months. Cya

Sun Dec 18th 2005 07:21:10 PM MST

by Graham

This was a nice web site to find even though I must say I am a little more scared than anything. I think I realize that I am a bit luckier than some here. I broke both the tibia (2 breaks at the joint) and the fibia (a little higher up) on Nov 27 playing football with some friends. I went also dislocated the foot and I must say the reduction (done twice in the ER with morphine) was the worst. I would hate to know what that is like without morphine. Anyhow I had surgery the next morning and they put 6 screws in (2 for each break in the tibia and 2 that screw the tib to the fib that will come out in 4 months). I am curious of what exactly is holding the fibula break in place to heal as the ortho wasn't worried about that on but wanted to screw the two bones together to let the ligaments repair. I am really interested to see all of you that were in casts for so long. I had a cast on for 10 days and then they took it off and sent me home in a tensure bandage only. It is now 3 weeks after surgery and I still have some swelling but the incisions (2) are healing well. I was given some physio excercises - much like on the website above that Tracey mentions - in order to stretch my muscles so that my foot will sit flat when I can start to put weight on in it in another 3 weeks (hopefully). One of my big problems right now is that I am getting really tight muscles in the calf and shin area about 1/2 way up the leg. Its the biggest cause on pain for me right now. I also have a lot of bruising still on the top of my foot but it is starting to lessen each day now. Otherwise I am trying to keep it elevated and keep the swelling down. I am getting to the point where I can have it non elevated for an hour or two without a lot of discomfort. I've even tried a bit of weight (10-15% maybe) but I can see the problem of the stretching as that is what gives me the pain before anything else. I'll take the advice on the leg excercise while I cannot walk as I would really like to speed the recovery along as my wife is pregnant and I need to help as she moves along! But I've still got a few months to get up to speed for that. I keep everyone updated as to how it goes along.

Mon Dec 19th 2005 10:49:12 PM MST

by Gloria

Thanks everyone for sharing, reading this gives me piece of mind and kinda leaves me somewhat prepared for what may come. I'm 40 yrs old and I am now a proud owner of two broken ankles. The right one was done when I was 5 and 35 yrs later the left one caught up. Dec 7th 2005, I was playing ice hockey and either caught an edge or was interfered with and went feet first, HARD into the boards. After seeing white light when I tired to get up, I knew all too well something was wrong. The x-rays confirmed that although it looked like a bad sprain I was gonna need surgery to repair the damage. Bless the body that goes into shock quickly as I could not feel my legs and only asked my team-mates to tell me if my knee and toes were all pointing the same way. I waited 26 hrs for surgery to add a plate and screws, my left fibula and ankle were the ones requiring hardware. Post surgery the pain was intense as I twitch prior to falling asleep and the twitch would send the leg into spasms. I get the staples removed and get re x-rayed to see how thing are healing on Dec 22. I am armed with questions for the doctor re keeping the hardware or not. I will try to update as my new challenges arise. My goal is to play again next season and get mobile sooner then later. Happy Holiday to one and all, and play hard or stay home!

Wed Dec 21st 2005 09:55:23 PM MST	by christine
i have tried to enter a log 3x now., this is my last attempt

Fri Dec 23rd 2005 08:41:55 PM MST

by Peter

It's been three and a half weeks now since I fractured my fibula and badly dislocated my left ankle. Slipped on some ice and fell down a hill while walking my dog. I am wearing a boot and use a walker to hop around the house. I really miss going for my daily walks...and it is one big drag being soooo inactive. My sister...who is a retired RN... gave me a bottle of a popular calcium supplement..Citracal Plus/magnesium. I guess that could help speed bone healing....but...I wonder if there are other nutrional supplements that one could take to rev up ligament repair ??? I heard it can take six months to a year for ligamnents to "mature" once they've been badly torn. I still take one Oxycodone HCL pain pill each morning...and one dose of regular Tylenol each night. I guess I'll try to go cold turkey after the holidays ...if only to clear out my system. As always...nice to hear from all you folks. Merry Christmas AND a speedy recovery !

Sun Dec 25th 2005 01:32:38 PM MST

by Deu B. Gurung

Hi Guys, i have read all your stories and now time to read mine.I have my Ancle,Tib/Fib fractured in right leg and fixed two plates and some screws.I discharged from Hospital on 19th Oct 2005 and on physio therapy exercise now.I am using crutches and Doc advised to put light weight and try to walk.I was little bit scared at first then tried to walk slowly with the crutces.I have experienced that it reduced swelling and balanced the size of both legs.I feel very comfortable until now and i believe that we must follow the doctor's instruction with out any hesitation and should have self confidence than it realy works.Good luck every one. By Deu

Tue Dec 27th 2005 02:49:55 PM MST	by Tracey
Peter, I've been taking B12 for the last couple of months. It helps repair nerve damage. I've also been guzzling milk since the break in July.

Mon Jan 2nd 2006 05:52:20 PM MST

by Elisa

Dic 4th, Broke my 2 ankles in car accident. Surgery on the left, one screw to hold the bones together, Righ ankle was put back into place (by hand). Wearing Moon boots, as I like to call them. No weight on the left when i walk (with walker) some weight bearing on right. It hurts a bit but it gets better everyday. Stiff both more the right... Doing PT for 3 weeks now and i do some of my own here @home. Patience, that's al since I broke both, I just want this to move fast so at least I can use one foot!!!! Happy new Year everyone, may this 2006 be the best year ever!!!!! Cheers

Fri Jan 6th 2006 02:44:33 PM MST

by Peter

Getting my ankle screws removed a week from today...just about six weeks after surgery. Doc says I can't put any body weight on the bad ankle until he pulls the screws. Anyone ever get that done without being put under ? Doc says the first turn of the screw hurts the most...but I would rather be awake for what seems like a fairly qick removal procedure. Oh...got my first ankle injury related bills. So far ...close to $16,000 for the surgery and two overnights in the hospital. Is this insane or what ??? Tracey...thanks for the B12 advice. Bye for now...and hope ya all feel better soon ! Peter

Sun Jan 8th 2006 09:03:24 PM MST

by amy

I got a trimalleor fracture on the Rialto Bridge in Venice while distracted by this guy I had a crush on (who felt so guilty later, he wayyyyy made up for it, but that's another story!) Those Italian marble steps shattered my ankle in three places. I had to go to the hospital in a water ambulance, across the churning waters of the Venetian lagoon, in a storm! I was had screws (8, I think) and a plate put in, and stayed in the hospital for 3 days. My US ortho says the plate won't come out for at least a year, if ever. What I find surprising after reading everyone's posts is how much faster my recovery process seems to be. I had no pain at all. Even when it happened, I thought it was dislocated because it didn't hurt. I was in a soft cast for two weeks, a hard cast for four, where I was able to be mobile with crutches. Now, in my sixth week, I have no cast at all but have to wear the hideous Black Boot (I feel like an S&M dominatrix in that thing!)when I'm out. Around the house, my doc said I don't need anything. can walk normally.I use a cane while out, but around the house, I don't need one. The whole ordeal has taken about six weeks, and as of four, I was mobile, using just a cane, and could drive. Don't get me wrong- my ankle is nowhere near normal--the bones are still too wide and it definitely looks more swollen than my other ankle, but I can rotate it, and again, there's no pain. I guess everybody heals differently, or maybe my fracture wasn't that bad (in three places? Doesn't sound good!) but reading everyone's posts I realize how fortunate I have been. Of course, it may be a case of hurry up and wait--I may heal faster in the early stage, but it may take months to get back to normal. And I thoroughly expect to have chronic trouble with this ankle, because I always have. Anyway, I do feel fortunate. Buon fortuna everyone. It WILL get better! Amy

Tue Jan 10th 2006 10:43:29 AM MST

by Mike Murphy

I broke my tib and fib on Dec 12, 2005. I am 57 and have been active in Mtn. Biking, running and skiing for about 20 years. I have 2 screws and a plate. I kept it elevated and iced the first 2 weeks and went from a splint to Aircast after 2.5 weeks. Swelling has come down drastically amd I am full weight bearing walking around the house without crutches although I did have to buy some clogs to elevate the right foot to compensate for the Aircast on the left. I have been going to therapy excerising the left leg although I cannot start full range of motion for another 2.5 weeks when the cast comes off. I still use the Cryo- ice water boot to ice it 4 or 5 times a day. I anticipate back to running and biking by summer. Mike

Tue Jan 10th 2006 11:05:02 AM MST

by Mike Murphy

Sorry, just a note on supplements. I take the Cal-Mag citrate ( 2 tablets at bedtime) Boneup ( 2 in morning), 1 Boron tablet (in morning) Tissue Rejuvenator ( 4 capsules in morning) and Bio-syl a liquid ( 6 drops in a glass of juice in the morning as it tastes awful). I live in a ski resort so you can imagine the amount of injuries. We have some pretty good orthpod's and therapists. Hope this helps. Mike

Tue Jan 10th 2006 01:57:33 PM MST

by melinda

I broke my right ankle on Thanksgiving morning, thought I sprained it and waited an extra day before going to see my doctor. The pain was intense. Turns out it was broken, and needed the surgery the following day. I got 6 screws on the other ankle along with the plate and then two addtl screws in the inner facing downward. Recvd the cast right after surgery, I swear I never felt that kind of pain before and I 've had 2 babies both natural!!. I got the cast while in surgery and got to stay in the hospital for an extra day. Got the cast during sugery, Was able to start to walk without the crutches on 12/20 then got it off on 12/28. I was fine with doing the "zombie" walk and the swelling had gone down some, but here I am and as of yesterday, I have a buring sensation on one side of my foot and a pain that travels up my bone to my knee when I walk. The swelling came back and when I step down, I feel like I'm stepping on something (inner ankle). I left a message for my doctor, so still waiting to hear from him. Has anyone experenced this?? I didn't do anything to reinjury it, I have been following instructions about resting when I get home from work and soaking it. anyone? ps I really love this site. You all are just amazing

Tue Jan 10th 2006 03:13:41 PM MST

by Mike Murphy

Hi Melinda, Sorry to hear about your accident. The basic rule of thumb I have learned is that if there is pain, stop what you are doing. I wlak around the house and gym without the crutches but use them everywhere else. The Cryo-ice water boot really helps the soreness and swelling. It looks like a large thermos bottle with a hose that connects to a rubber velcro boot and you let the ice cold water run into the boot where it compresses like a soft cast and ice for 30 minutes. Are you seeing a therapist?? They can direct you on what and what not to do also, mine loaned me the Cryo boot. Good Luck!!Mike

Tue Jan 10th 2006 04:37:39 PM MST

by Mike Murphy

Sat Jan 14th 2006 12:54:46 PM MST

by Alec

Hey everyone I posted on Novemeber 6th, 2005 and things so far are going better than I had planned. I got the cast off Dec 12th and started right into PT. I would advise everyone that had this type of injury to attend at least a couple PT sessions because they really helped. After 4 sessions I am walking with no limp, and plan on playing basketball by next month. Excersise the ankle as much as possible while just sitting at a desk or whatever because it really helps. I was really down after reading all of these posts about people's bad experiences, but things do get better with some effort. Good Luck to everyone

Sat Jan 14th 2006 05:55:38 PM MST	by Peter
Thanks to Alec for the info on PT. Just got my ankle screws removed and PT is the next step. It sounds like PT gets you back to normal faster...and that's what I want. Thanks again...Peter

Sun Jan 15th 2006 11:54:50 AM MST	by Anne
I broke my ankle two weeks ago while ice skating with my children. I've been put in a cast and given six weeks off work. Is it likely that I'll be signed off work for longer ? I've been told i won't be able to drive for 4 weeks after the cast comes off and I'll have to have physiotherapy to learn how to walk again.

Sun Jan 15th 2006 12:19:11 PM MST

by Tracey

Alec, congrats on getting back on your feet so quickly. I agree that PT is important and can make the difference. Everyone should make sure that the PT is showing results though, and if not, see someone else. I had a follow-up with my surgeon on friday and it looks like I've got too much scar tissue to be able to walk without a limp. I've got to go back and get the plate taken out. My surgeon will then manually scrape away the scar tissue so I can try again. He normally doesn't take out the plate and screws but, since we agree the PT screwed up my recovery, he's going to do it in my case. I didn't even get a resistance band until 3 months into the PT, spent 3 months just doing the alphabet. So, if you're paying for PT, look for quicker results and push yourself. After a couple of months, the "die is cast", as my surgeon told me. I'll be in for surgery in the summer of 2007 (ack!). Anne, sorry to hear about the break. Trust me, we all feel for you. Everyone heals at a different pace. At 6 weeks, I was finally out of my last cast. I broke my ankle on July 3rd and wasn't approved to go back to work until the end of October. My job required very little aside from typing on a computer. My advice is concentrate on healing. Be patient and give yourself time. Use Alec's post as an inspiration and ignore the rest of us as we gripe.

Sun Jan 15th 2006 10:19:48 PM MST

by jeff

Last sunday afternoon, I fractured my ankle while roller skating with my daughter. Thursday afternoon I had surgery. The doctor put a plate and screws in and told my family it was a little worse than he thought. It was broken in 3 places. The tibia, fibula, and I don't know where the third is. I came out of surgery in a hard cast. I've got a high tolerance for pain, but I am taking Oxycodone every 4-5 hours. I really enjoy roller skating with my daughter. Its fun, and great exercise. I'm 40 years old and I can definitely say this is the scariest situation I've ever been in. I just constantly wonder how long until I can drive, walk, skate. Or if I ever will be able to again. Its an awful injury.

Mon Jan 16th 2006 10:53:20 AM MST

by Mike Murphy

Hi Jeff, Sorry about your accident. I have been posting above. I did my tib and fib and something else in back 5 weeks ago. When I found this page it really scared me after reading some of the stories. My break was almost identical to the pictures at the top of this site. You didn't mention if it was your right or left. If it was your left (like mine) driving is not an issue. Read my posts above about icing and supplements. It is important to go to physical therapy and work the injured leg, not the ankle but the leg with side movements etc. You should also be able to ride a stationary bike with your doc's ok. One of the things I really miss is not running, but getting on a stationary bike for 30 min to an hour gives a great cardio workout. I have talked to many people where I live who have had fractured ankles (I live is a ski resort), also a ski boot or roller skate boot should provide you with pretty good support wrapping tight around the ankle just be careful not to roll it outward, and they all say it comes back. If you have any questions please ask. Regards, Mike

Mon Jan 16th 2006 02:23:05 PM MST

by Gloria

Hey everyone, keep in mine that people always talk about the worst, just like when you get bad service you tell people but rarely do we tell others when service is good. I am in week 5 since breaking my left ankle. Although at first everyone thought it was a bad sprain x-rays told a different story. A plate 7 screws and 1 very long one holding the fib and tib in place. I will not lie and say it did not hurt, the first 2 weeks were the worst, but now I am counting the days to begin the road to recovery. 10 days and counting. I can wiggle my toes and have some up and down movement in my cast. Stay positive, take the supplements. In time I have developed upper body strength and my right leg can now balance me like never before. Crutching up stairs is now easy. Also keep a small back pack handy as there is nothing worse then trying to hold things as you motor around. It is a state of mind and I have had some very dark days but have had good support at home, and quickly get past those type of days. Take Care G

Fri Jan 20th 2006 09:56:33 AM MST

by Mike Murphy

Well heres a progress report. As I have mentioned in posts above, I am 57 and had a tri -malleor fracture to the left ankle almost identical to the pictures at the top of this page 40 days ago. 4 days ago I started pointing my foot forward while seated along with my right foot and then pulling back towards the leg (with the aircast off) and holding each position for about 20 seconds. This really loosned up the ankle and this morning I walked around the bathroom on both feet with really not much of a limp. The aircast comes off next Thursday and I begin full range of motion therapy. The left calf has atrophied but I know will come back to normal. Hope this helps anybody in a similar situation. Good luck!

Sat Jan 21st 2006 08:04:41 PM MST	by Sandy Weber
I suffered a tri-malleor fracture to the right ankle on December 29th. I am three weeks out of surgery and the doc said I can walk on my air cast with no crutches now. hmmmm, does that sound right? I have 10 screws and a plate. A couple questions. Do screws ever back out on their own and need to be fixed? Is it normal for parts of your foot to feel like it is numb?

Sun Jan 22nd 2006 07:35:05 AM MST

by Andy Wain

I suffered a broken ankle after foolishly giving my friend a piggy back when i was drunk. Don't do it!! It's not fun!! Its not clever!! I broke tib and fib on 12th december and have four screws, two pins, tension wires and a long screw through both tib and fib. long fixing screw comes out 1st feb under general anesthetic. currently taking dihydocodine pain killers (which i forgot to take one moring and it felt like someone was sawing my leg off). i think the exercise web link was great, but had been doing the heel and calf exercises already with a blanket. i can't believe how much my leg has wasted, so started upper leg and hip exercises early... even with pot on. sorry to hear you have such high bills to pay... i'm so appreciative of the UK NHS system, i'm hoping to start driving by mid feb... is this too ambitious? i too have half of my big toe feeling quite numb... is this normal? Anyway. good luck to you all and have a good recovery!

Sun Jan 22nd 2006 10:13:38 AM MST

by Mike Murphy

For Sandy: Absolutely OK to walk in the aircast. Go find a comfortable pair of shoes (even though you are only going to use one now) like clogs that will raise your good leg up to the heighth of your bad leg so you are walking level. Very important to do this other wise you might mess your hips up walking off level. Screws don't back out to often so you don't have to worry about that. For Andy: Normal to have some numbness, its only been 3 weeks and a lot has to do with swelling. I am 42 days today and still have some swelling and a little numbness. Driving depends on which ankle you broke and if stick or automatic. If your right leg is ok and you drive an automatic no problem. If it is your right ankle broken better hold off. I had some wine last night with some friends of mine,28 Orhtopaedic Surgeons from all over america who come here to Sun Valley Idaho to ski in the winter. I have known many of them for over 10 years (I am an entertainer here) and got a lot of questions answered. If you have any ques. please don't hesitate to ask. I start walking without the aircast on Thursday. Good Luck. Mike

Sun Jan 22nd 2006 10:31:41 AM MST

by anne

Why is it that there are different treatments for ankle fractures? I too was very active before breaking my ankle (ice skating) on Dec 30 . I used to swim four miles a week to 2-3 hours of advanced step aerobics and mountain bike and play tennis whenever I could. My break luckily didn't require surgery but I'm in a cast and have been told that I'm not allowed to weight bear for six weeks (21 days to go and counting). I was also told not to do any exercise - not even light weights for the upper body. All this inactivity is driving me mad - and having read about all the exercises you can do on this site I'm also confused. Obviously I don't want to compromise the healing process but sitting still (and gaining weight) isn't making me too happy either. Has anyone got any suggestions?

Sun Jan 22nd 2006 01:18:12 PM MST

by Mike Murphy

Hi Anne, When I first stumbled across this page it scared the hell out of me after reading some of the post's and then I started my physical therapy and learning the real facts. You can read above about my particular fracture. I have been going to the gym for 3 weeks and working upper body with weight machines so I am sitting most of the time. I have been riding various excerise bikes for 2 weeks (in my aircast) with complete consent from my PT and Doc, Do you have a PT? A good sports PT will be familiar with what you can and cannot do and will be aware that physically active people heal faster than people who have been non active. I was encouraged to do all the above including swimming although my main activities have been running and mountain biking. If you get to go to a removable aircast, you could probably swim but after 6 weeks. Hope this helps. Mike

Sun Jan 22nd 2006 04:45:01 PM MST

by Mike in Cocoa Beach

Said the next time I would log back on would be after I caught my first wave since the accident, today was the DAY! Surfed all afternoon and caught every wave I attempted. Carving them front and backside, like my left fibula had never been broken six months ago in a motorcycle accident. I only started walking unassisted within the last month and a half, and I am happy to say I now have my life back. Surfing is my passion and without it, I would not be the same person. I am extremly humbled and have learned alot about myself from this experience(sold the motorcycle). Good luck to all of you and be resilient!

Mon Jan 23rd 2006 08:38:06 AM MST	by Tracey
Way to go, Mike in Cocoa Beach!

Fri Jan 27th 2006 05:51:38 PM MST

by Hop- a-long Lisa

Hello Everyone, Well here is MY story. I model, and my new manager was having a Pats Party on the 9th of January, 2006. After the games..his Step sons came home. I am a petite girl mind you, just under 5'2". The step sons got into a fight..and I stepped in and got elbowed in the eye and someone fell into me causing me to lose my footage. The pain in my left ankle was awful. I took my sock off at the ER. It was blown up greatly. The x-ray showed a triple break, yes folks, the worst break possible. It was 3 am and I was in a bed at 5am due for OP at noon. Hello morphin button...felt like the President Bush ! every six minutes or as needed. Then it was Dr Vikadin...so tired of it. Today, at almost 2 weeks the stitches were removed. I have been living with my best freind for I can not do too much like we all use to. He put on a new caste and I chose surfer pink...and looked at my x-rays. I have 2 long screws on my inside, and a plate with 6 screws on my outie. He told me see you in 4 weeks and maybe after we take that caste off if the x rays look like it is healing right..and I can wear a brace. I f not I wear the caste for another 2 weeks. He told me today to "reach to the ceiling" with my toes and to try to use my BOO BOO foot for balance from time to time. I have a long road ahead of me. My best friend told me not to wear high heels for a year. Ladies...I have cried. I have two scars now..and another woman said to keep the scar tissue out of the sun or it will show big time...WOW! I have 3 young children, we play lots of sports. Even just fishing..can I even do that? I pray for Strength from God. And thankful for my friends and all who love me. How do I get use to this? I use to be so spry and ready to do push ups at any given moment. I will make this work...I know God has a plan..Maybe he wanted to slow me down this year. Well, no one said anything about my screws coming out someday...time to tell on that one. God Bless all of you and don't forget to pray for yourselves.

Fri Jan 27th 2006 07:17:52 PM MST

by Mike Murphy

Hi Lisa, I had the same break you did, same as the top of this page. 2 screws in the big one and a 2" plate with 5 screws in the little one and messed up the back. Please read my above posts. My walking cast came off this past Monday after exactly 6 weeks from the break and I am walking ok and the swelling has gone down dramatically. I live in a ski resort so I am extra careful because there is ice everywhere.I am 57. Try the supplements and find a good sports PT immediately. You would not believe the different opinions between Surgeons and Physical Therapists. Go with the PT, they will get you back to 100%. I thought the same thing as you, maybe god wanted to slow me down a little. Not the case. What he does want you to do is develop a positive attitude and blast thru this. I have a saying on my wall that says "Faith can move mountains....but still..better bring a shovel". Good luck!!

Sun Jan 29th 2006 08:15:58 PM MST

by Gloria

I got my cast off on Thursday Jan 25, 7 weeks after getting surgery to add a plate with 7 screws and a large screw holding my displaced fib and tib together. I was re x-rayed and sent home with instructions to not place more then 20 % weight on my now freed left leg, I am still on crutches. Was told to start physio and work on range of motion (ROM) I begin my physio on Tuesday. I have experience swelling towards the end of day but no pain. I go in on Feb 23 to have the screw removed with a local anaesthetic. Had a bit of a slide on my crutches forcing me to bear more weight then I was instructed to. Had a bit of a panic attack but the pain did not last although it's still swollen. Wish I had gone right away to physio as unclear how much to push as far as what I can and can not do on my newly uncasted leg. I have continued to ice my leg when I can, and will check in after my physio appointment. Take care all.

Mon Jan 30th 2006 12:46:40 PM MST

by anne

Just wanted to say thanks to Mike Murphy for advice on doing some exercise. I got some light handweights and have been doing some upper body work over the last week plus some sits ups and it's like a cloud has lifted - physically I feel much better and mentally I'm more optimistic. It's two weeks to go until the cast comes off and it feels like there's light at the end of the tunnel. Lisa it sounds like you're devastated by the injury and it is ghastly but Imaybe like me you will discover a real silver lining. I cannot believe the number of people who have rallied around and offered help some of whom I barely knew before. Stay strong.

Tue Jan 31st 2006 07:23:56 AM MST

by Andy Wheeler

Hi, I broke my ankle playing football three weeks ago (or to be more precise somebody broke it for me...thanks guy!). The doctor in casualty reduced the dislocation of my foot before I was moved to another hospital for surgery. Had a plate screwed to my fibula with 6 short screws and one screw holding my tib & fib together (which is due to be removed in 5-6 weeks time). I've got a pot on it for another 3-4 weeks which is obviously common-practice over here in the UK...sounds like you have different parctices in the States like pnuematic casts etc. I'm keen to do exersises now so that rehab of both the ankle jont and thigh/calf muscles is underway before I'm out of a cast. I read somewhere that with screws in the ankle, rehab can be started earlier with little risk of slowing the healing process of the bones. I obviously have limited movement within the cast, but can move my ankle joint a little bit. Can anyone tell me if it is OK to continue doing this whilst still in my cast? It's surprisingly pain-free....I don't know if this is a good or bad thing. Judging by other peoples' stories it sounds like a good think...guess I should be grateful for the UK National Health Service! Keep your chins up! (and your legs)

Tue Jan 31st 2006 11:16:49 AM MST

by Diane

Nice to find this site after searching a long time for info. I broke my ankle in 2 places 6 weeks ago and also have extensive ligament damage which my os says will take a long time to recover from. I go back for xrays tomorrow and am hoping to get an air cast. I understand they cost about $250 Cdn. Is that about right? I'm hoping my health insurance will cover at least half of that. Can someone give me more info about the boot. Is it heavy and do you take it off to sleep. I am having trouble sleeping and can't find a comfortable position. Any suggestions. My cast doesn't allow me much movement for bending and I can't wait to get it off. I sure hope they don't say I have to have another cast on as I have had enough. I was hoping to be able to go back to work at 8 weeks but have a full flight of stairs to climb to my office and I can't manage going up on crutches, just down. So far I go up on my butt. Also confused about weight bearing with large screw in place. Some say not until it comes out and others seem to walk with in. What is the consensus?

Tue Jan 31st 2006 03:28:53 PM MST

by Mike Murphy

For Andy & Diane, Andy, your ankle is stronger with the crews and plates than a fracture which is just allowed to heal. You didn't mention if you did a tri-malleolor which is the tibia the fibula AND the post mallelous (sp?) which is a bone behind the tibia above the heel. If this was messed up to, they won't want you to do any ankle movement for 6 to 7 weeks. Once again, it is very important to work with a good sports physical therapist. I have been out of the aircast now for about 1 week and stretching and bending and walking just fine although it will swell up by the end of the day. In the morning it looks great. You will be 100%!! Diane, If you go to google and type in aircast it will take you to their site. I believe my Orthopedic Surgeon charged me $200 US and I believe they were $138 thru Aircast. You will probably have to wear the Aircast 24/7 and it is lighter than a regular cast and should be easier to sleep in. Damaged ligaments will definately take more time. As I have mentioned above, if and when you are allowed to put weight on it and you will eventually, you will need you buy some clogs or whatever to raise your good leg up to the heighth of your injured as the Aircast is about 1.5 to 2 inches higher. When you get it this will be apparent. This will keep you walking level so you don't mess your hips up. Once again a good sports PT can work miracles and insurance does cover it if your Surgeon recomend's it. Don't be afraid of stairs. Going up with training becomes easier, just practice on two stairs with some one behind you until you are comfortable. Good luck!

Tue Jan 31st 2006 04:04:34 PM MST

by Peter

Hi to all...you gang of fellow ankle smashers ! It is 9 weeks to the day that I broke my left ankle and fib (stepped into hole while running with my dog) Today was my third PT session and I graduated to walking with a cane ! ( Never thought that I would think walking with a cane is so wonderful...but it sure beats the walker and crutches !!!) Next week I can totally dump the darth boot as well. Although my ankle screws were removed just over two weeks ago...I will still have the six screws and the plate in my fib . I gather you get to keep them if they don't bother you. The PT has really been helpful...and so far...I think my El Cheapo insurance company will cover after a $25 co-pay per visit. You folks in the U-K have it pretty good when it comes to health care. Sadly...my country is screwed up on that score. Bye for now and continued healing to all !!! Peter

Wed Feb 1st 2006 05:29:56 AM MST	by jodi
Hey guys --- if anyone has some answers/comments, please advise. My brother is in the ICU after a serious car accident... One of his many injuries is a severly broken ankle (and fib/tib??)..THe ortho said it has 30 breaks in it... They can't operate until at least next Monday. From past experiences, can anyone give me questions I should ask, what to expect, any help? Thank you -

Wed Feb 1st 2006 09:43:39 AM MST

by Andy Wheeler

Thanks Mike. Having done a bit of anatomical revision (was so keen to get out of hospital I didn’t question the surgeon in detail about my injury) it seems that I fractured my fibular (lateral) malleolus, which is now plated and temporarily pinned to the tibia whilst it heals. From what I remember of my X ray, my medial malleolus did not fracture, ie. there is no damage to the tibia, so I think I have what is called a ‘type A malleolar fracture.’ Anyhow, thanks very much for the encouragement. Having looked at your postings it sounds as if you did a lot more damage than I did, and also that your positive attitude and single-mindedness is working wonders. It sounds as if there is no reason why I should not get fully active again. I will keep you posted. Cheers

Wed Feb 1st 2006 03:02:24 PM MST

by Mike Murphy

Hi Jodi, I have (nor neither my Orthopedic Surgeon or PT) never heard of a physician counting the amount of breaks, it is almost impossible. What they say is it is a comutted fracture. They are probably trying to reduce the swelling before surgery which explains putting it off until Monday. It sounds like a tough fracture. but every thing heals if cared for properly. Ask the Doctor how extensive the ligament and tendon damage is. Ligaments and tendons take much longer than fractures. Find a good sports PT, i always recomend sports PT's as they have usually seen every type of injury and fracture and know how to heal them. The ask the Doc to send xrays before and after to whoever the PT is. You will then have a good picture on healing and recovery time. Hope this helps and wish your brother good luck. He will be fine. Mike

Wed Feb 1st 2006 11:52:28 PM MST

by Graham

Well time for another update - this one not very positive! I have now had two follow up visits with the Orthopedic surgeon and still cannot put weight on the leg (broke it Nov 25th)! So my fast thought of 6 weeks to shuffling is now 9 weeks and 4 more before I get another chance. I was agressively streching but I am worried now that it was part of the problem and I am backing off. It seems, per the surgeon, that streching down the foot down is bad (though the hospital physio gave me excercises that had rotational streching that included down). Still have one big (well it looked big on the blown up xray) gap to close. I am losing my mind not being able to drive! I will definately go the physio route but is there any point before I can put weight on it? If I am not mended by the next visit they may need to operate again. I really wonder why I was only in a cast for 10 days. I'd appreciate any thoughts that might help (already taking lots of calcium and vit. c/d) - Graham

Fri Feb 3rd 2006 04:17:35 PM MST

by Tracey W

This site is so great and it makes me feel better to know that I'm not alone! Well, I did the do falling on the edge of a step on Christmas day, and no I hadn't been drinking! I didn't even get my Christmas dinner. Oh my god the pain, thank god my husband put my ankle back (it was the opposite way to my leg...urghhh). Anyway, I had the plate & the screws put in and here I am approaching week 6 with my cast to be taken off next Tuesday (touch wood!). What I want to know is how long it will be before I can walk on it (zombie shuffle if need be). The doctor said that I could start to put it down, which I have but not to stand on (Im petrified!). I can't even get upstairs (could do so on my backside at a push but I don't trust myself not to fall again). My biggest loss is not having independence, getting sick of it now. Please can someone tell me - how much longer will it be???

Fri Feb 3rd 2006 05:38:13 PM MST

by Mike Murphy

Hi Tracey, you didn't mention what you broke. Mine is identical to the xrays at the top of this page and is called a trimallleolar fracture tib/fib etc. If you tore ligaments it will take longer. I was in a walking (Aircast) 3 weeks after surgery and allowed to put full weight. The cast came off last week after 6 weeks and I am walking. Once again, find a good sports PT and put him/her in touch with your surgeon. The PT will know exactly how to rehab you and will give you timelines. The the right rehab you will be 100%. Good luck!!

Sat Feb 4th 2006 07:28:38 AM MST

by Tracey W

Thanks Mike, it was a displaced break of my fibula, but that was after I'd dislocated it first. I didn't tear any ligaments (well they never mentioned it). Sounds like your was alot worse than mine. I didn't break my tibia, mine was plated and screwed along the fibula, so was all done on that side. I wasn't even offered an aircast. I can't wait to start feeling my foot on the floor again and to drive again! - I don't think you appreciate the qualities in life until you experience such. Thanks so much for giving me advice about the PT - I'll take that on board and thanks for giving me hope! Good Luck to you - keep in touch!

Sat Feb 4th 2006 09:30:32 PM MST

by Steve G

It's amazing how this page seems to be the best resource on the net for broken ankle discussion! Of course, I found it while searching for info on my broken ankle (done 1/27/06). I had my surgery 2 days ago on 2/2/06. A plate and 7 screws. I was going to lurk and just absorb the information contained on this page but I couldn't help but become part of it since I have "earned" the privilege of being able to post on here :) I think having a positive outlook is the key to recovery. I was a little bummed out and sure I still am but the bottom line is you have to face it and deal with the problem.

Sat Feb 4th 2006 10:48 PM MST

by Mike Murphy

Abolutely Steve! As you have read above, I did mine 12/12/05 and have probably put more posts up than anyone on this board and for a reason. I wanted to know everything about this because it really does knock you down both physically and mentally....at first. When I started reading all the posts, I began to get depressed with the way people were dealing with their various injuries and therapies. As I began to deal with mine and talked with friends (ski resort, lot of these kinds if fractures)I began to get a different picture and realized a positive attitude, doing everything the right way i.e keep you leg elevated for two weeks minimum, you ice and/or Cryoboot (a rubber bladder that connects to a large thermos you fill with ice and water, elevate the thermos and its drains into the Cryoboot which wraps and velcros around your ankle and becomes snug like a soft cast when inflated with the ice cold water. Do this for 20min 4 or 5 times a day or use a bag of frozeb peas. I did not wash or get the sutured area wet for 6 weeks!! I have read about people getting infections because they they washed to early. Why take the chance? Who's gonna want to smell your ankle anyway?? Just wait. Take supplements, specifically Boron, Cam/mag citrate, Bone up, Tissue rejuvenator and Bio-syl (silicon that helps bone healing 6 drops in juice, smells like crap so you don't want to put it in water). You can Google them and last, and I've posted it 10 times above, Sports Physical Therapist working with your Ortho. I am 57, the cast came off a 6 weeks and I was walking, I can snow shoe next week (8 weeks) and will be able to run in 8 more weeks and mtn. bike this summer, I'm close to 95% range already and was at the gym today doing calf presses. Go for it!! You will be blown away at how fast you come back!! Murf

Sun Feb 5th 2006 11:29:49 AM MST

by Janice

Hi guys Matthew seems to have 2 sites up and running and I've been posting on the other one so I'm glad to have found some other fellow sufferers!Broke my ankle on Dec 27th, surgery Jan 15th, staples out and hopefully getting out of plaster in 2weeks and into the famous boot.As you have all said mental attitude is as important as anything else so I'm glad everyone is so positive. For those of you who have been praising our British Health Service, don't get too excited. My husband and I have worked all our life and paid our contributions for over 40 years. When I had my accident the only hospital which could do the op had a waiting list. My name on the waiting list went down instead of up as patients were brought in fom other hospitals. The only reason I eventually got a bed was because I went to the media-sad but true. I know of people who have worked all their life waiting for 4 years to get a hip replacement. The NHS is in serious difficulties.But lets be positive and we can all help each other. Happy healing to you all

Sun Feb 5th 2006 01:24:43 PM MST

by Gloria

checking in, have had two PT appointments now and I have to say I am at about 80% already. I have been working on getting back my range of motion (ROM) wobble boards and stationary bike are my new best friends. I am not to do any strengthening yet but can start working on balance such as standing on one leg. I am amazed at the no pain, and it feels so good to be a biped again!!! I can begin walking short distances at home or work with no crutches but any long distances are to be with crutches to avoid any strain on my still weak ankle. My PT keeps teasing me that although I'm doing well I'm still not ready to join my ice hockey team. It's great to have a PT with a sense of humor. If you are just starting out, stay positive there is an end to it. I feel with the support of family and friends who drove me to appointments, took me out and were there for me when needed, I would have been a mess. Don't hesitate to ask for help or a favour, take the time to rest and recover, it's key to getting back quickly and pain free. I am still counting down the days for May when I should be back , closer to what I was before the injury. Mike Murphy, THANK YOU, you're full of great information and support, thanks for taking the time. And Matt, your website has been a huge help, thanks for keeping it active.

Tue Feb 7th 2006 10:42:51 PM MST

by Kristine

I have to say that I can't even begin to know what you all are going through. My husband on the otherhand can, he was in a car accident when he was about 18 and in the hospital for 8 months. He was a very lucky man and has lived a very active life. Be positive. This web site has given me more of an understanding of what he went threw. Good luck to all. One question, does anyone know of a web site for long term (i.e.20 year)issues? Thank you.

Wed Feb 8th 2006 04:21:47 PM MST

by Diane

Update: I had my cast removed on Feb 1st, 6 weeks from surgery and thought I would probably go in to an air cast and begin weight bearing (as my friend did) but was surprised that my os said I no longer needed the support. He said the most important thing at this stage was to begin moving my foot and ankle as I had a lot of work to do to repair damaged ligaments. I started pt the next day and my foot felt like a cement mold. When asked to stretch toes and move foot, nothing happened - very frustrating. The pt said the brain forgets how to communicate with the foot and would have to relearn. After 5 days I had made a lot of progress moving my foot and attempting rom exercises. My problem is that my toes were also pointing down when the cast was put on (os was annoyed at cast technician for this)and the ankle ligaments became overstretched and now don't want to move. I can't put my heel down when I try to walk so it is very difficult to try taking a step with crutches. I can manage slightly by putting foot flat out front, but knee then won't bend and leg is then way too straight. Has anyone else experienced this and any advice on what will help? I feel like just forcing it but my ot warned me not to over do it. I am also doing pt on knee as it is very sore from keeping my leg up so much. At this stage it is hard to believe I will ever walk, but am certainly enjoying the freedom from the cast and having a bath!

Wed Feb 8th 2006 10:45:15 PM MST

by Mike Murphy

Hi Diane, It sounds that because of the ligament damage the cast went up past your ankle (past the knee??). It will just take a little more time. The fact that the cast is off after 6 weeks is incredible! The hardware makes the ankle actually stronger than if were a break that was simply allowed to heal at which case you would not be out of the cast this quick. I am in my 2nd week without the cast and going to PT every other day. I am using the blue wide rubber band which I attatch around my foot stretch my leg out straight on a footstool pull back the band and then push my foot forward and then back for 4 minutes 3 three times a day, also calf stretches. You may have different excerises because of the ligaments. Your PT will know. Once he says get aggressive, go for it.There will be a point in time when it will be very difficult to hurt (outside of doing something like you did before) the injured area. At this point, you will be doing excerises to break down the scar tissue, get rid of the edema (on a swollen area push your finger down but don't cause pain and hold it for 15 seconds then release and there should be a big dent....edema!)this is the dead tissue and blood that have accumulated because of the injury and inactivity, this goes away the more you work your ankle thru the exercises and will disappear completely. Get ready for your ankle to swell up during the day when you start walking on it(normal) and then look much better every morning when you wake up. I wear a compression sock (very tight fitting)24/7. It keeps the swelling down. You PT should have these. Just remember (like you said) not to over do it! If something hurts..STOP! If anybody at my PT says "ouch" PT's come running. You are doing great. Congratulations!!Mike PS it will be very gradual at first and then came very fast!

Thu Feb 9th 2006 11:23:35 AM MST

by Steve G

It's been exactly a week today since my surgery. I stopped taking percoset 4 days after the surgery because I was too wacked out and felt like a zombie. I only have throbbing when I am up on the crutches. It feels like the staples in my skin want to pop right out from all the pressure. I know everyone is different but when does the throbbing stop? The buising in my toes looks like its clearing a little which I hope indicates that I am on my way! Next week the staples come out!

Thu Feb 9th 2006 01:37:14 PM MST	by Mike Murphy
Steve, What was your injury in detail? Mike

Thu Feb 9th 2006 03:24:59 PM MST

by Steve G

Mike, it was a bimalleolar fracture. Plate and 7 screws in the fib (none was needed on the tib side). I was told there was ligament damage as well but that would heal on its own. I am 27yrs old and live a very active lifestyle... Gym 3x's a week including jogging or elliptical machine, skiing, inline skating, fishing, kayaking, hiking, softball... I would also be interested in taking the supplements you have been taking. I feel like I am whithering away here!

Thu Feb 9th 2006 05:43:59 PM MST

by Mike Murphy

Hi Steve, The 1st week is the toughest especially if you have been active. Everything is swollen, black and blue and painful. It gradually gets better. Keeping it elevated and iced is important. Ask your PT (if you don't have one line up a good sports PT) if he has a cryo-boot (see above posts). After I got out of my funk (about 9 days) I started talking to people about rehab and supplements. I have never been a hololistic person but hey if theres a chance it will help, sign me up. I still am taking after 8.5 weeks, Biosil made by Jarrow with silicon an essential partner of calcium and glucosamine. I take Tissue Rejuvenator made by E-CAPS out of Whitefish Mt. and Boron capsules. You are young and should heal just fine. 3 weeks after my surgery I was given permission to ride a spin bike with low resistance and am now riding intervals for an hour with increased resistance but not allowed to stand and pedal. Keep a positive attitude an you won't believe how fast you turn the corner. I can't stress enough the importance of a good sports PT, they deal with everything! I live in a ski resort and ankles, legs, knees, wrists, and hips are so common but they all come back. Good luck! Mike

Thu Feb 9th 2006 05:44 PM MST

by Mike Murphy

Thu Feb 9th 2006 06:32:14 PM MST

by Steve G

Thanks for the clarification on the suppliments Mike. About the boron caps, I've found some supps that include boron (3mg) but are you taking a boron only capsule exclusively? I've found all the other supps from a company that I have been buying other supps from for years and I cannot find just boron caps. Next week when I get the staples taken out I plan to get some info on a good sports PT. My ortho surg. is a sports medicine specialist who's mentor was the Dr. who operated on Terrell Owens. I know they have a PT group in my Dr's building as well... I will have to look into it. Thanks again!

Thu Feb 9th 2006 07:04:46 PM MST	by Peter
Hi folks... It has been just over 1o weeks since I broke my ankle and fib ...and I'm pleased to say that I've been walking quite a bit without my cane as of late. Just finished my 6th PT session and all I can say is ...PT is a grea